Friday, April 17, 2009

Are the major doctrines to be found in the various bible translations?
Who determines whether they are 'major' doctrines?
Who determines whether they are 'doctrines'?
In how many bible translations does one have to search?
Does one have to know language other then English (for those that speak English)?


Scripture text 4_19_2009

Romans 10:14-21
1 Corinthians 11:23-30

Searching for the true Word of God.
Is major doctrine found in various bibles?

Where is the gospel “of peace”?
(NIV) And how can they preach unless they are sent? As it is written, "How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!"[
(NASV) How will they preach unless they are sent? Just as it is written, "HOW BEAUTIFUL ARE THE FEET OF THOSE WHO BRING GOOD NEWS OF GOOD THINGS!"
(NLT) And how will anyone go and tell them without being sent? That is what the Scriptures mean when they say, "How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!"
(ESV) And how are they to preach unless they are sent? As it is written, "How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the good news!"
(CEV) And how can anyone tell them without being sent by the Lord? The Scriptures say it is a beautiful sight to see even the feet of someone coming to preach the good news.
(1901 ASV) and how shall they preach, except they be sent? even as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that bring glad tidings of good things!
(NLV) And how can someone tell them if he is not sent? The Holy Writings say, "The feet of those who bring the Good News are beautiful."
(HCSB) And how can they preach unless they are sent? As it is written: How welcome are the feet of those who announce the gospel of good things
(NCV) and before someone can go and tell them, that person must be sent. It is written, "How beautiful is the person who comes to bring good news."
(RSV) And how can men preach unless they are sent? As it is written, "How beautiful are the feet of those who preach good news!"
(NAB-Roman Catholic) And how can people preach unless they are sent? As it is written, "How beautiful are the feet of those who bring (the) good news!"
(NWT-Jehovah’s Witnesses) How, in turn, will they preach unless they have been sent forth? Just as it is written: “How comely are the feet of those who declare good news of good things!”

Corrupted Manuscripts
This verse is corrupted in the following manuscripts:
Aleph 01 - Sinaiticus - Fourth centuryA 02 Alexandrinus - Fifth century
B 03 - Vaticanus - Fourth century
C 04 - Ephraemi Rescriptus - Fifth century
P 46 - Second century
Affected Teaching
One of the greatest aspects of the true Gospel is that it not only saves an individual for eternity but it causes a cessation of hostility between God and the saved person. (Rom 5:1 KJV) Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: Before a person becomes saved they are at war with God because of them being in sin but once that person is saved, the war is over and that is why it is called the Gospel of Peace. However, the modern versions omit those two little words which carry with them an immense teaching as we just saw.

The modern versions just about change that truth from the Gospel of peace to good news. What is the difference? The Gospel always speaks about the saving power of the Lord Jesus Christ but when these words are reduced to only “good news” it can take on the meaning of someone is blessed because they bring good news. Now good news can mean that some anchor on a news show is bringing good news (for a change) but does that mean they are blessed for doing so? The answer is no! If God wanted to use the term “good news” instead of “gospel” He could have done so but He chose to separate the Gospel from any intimation or association with worldly news. Once again the King James keeps a proper separation between the two while the modern versions make no distinctions.

Proverbs 30:5 (AV/KJB) Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.

Romans 10:15
(KJV) And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
(1611 KJV) And how shall they preach, except they be sent? As it is written: How beautifull are the feete of them that preach the Gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
(1568 Bishop’s Bible) And howe shall they preache, except they be sent? As it is written: Howe beautifull are the feete of them whiche bryng good tydynges of peace, & bryng good tydynges of good thynges.
(1526 Tyndale) And how shall they preach except they be sent? As it is written: how beautifull are the fete of them which bringe glad tydynges of peace and bringe glad tydynges of good thinges.

1 Corinthians 11:24
(NIV) and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, “This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me.”
(HCSB) gave thanks, broke it, and said, "This is My body, which is for you. Do this in remembrance of Me."
(ESV) and when he had given thanks, he broke it, and said, "This is my body which is for you. Do this in remembrance of me."
(1901 ASV) and when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, This is my body, which is for you: this do in remembrance of me.
(CEV) Then after he had given thanks, he broke it and said, "This is my body, which is given for you. Eat this and remember me."
(RSV) and when he had given thanks, he broke it, and said, "This is my body which is for you. Do this in remembrance of me."
(NRSV) and when he had given thanks, he broke it, and said, "This is my body that is for you. Do this in remembrance of me."
(NAB - Roman Catholic) and, after he had given thanks, broke it and said, "This is my body that is for you. Do this in remembrance of me."
(NWT - Jehovah’s Witnesses) and, after giving thanks, he broke it and said: “This means my body which is in YOUR behalf. Keep doing this in remembrance of me.”
(NKJV) confusion by the note: “NU-Text omits preach the gospel of peace, Who.”

Effect
The Greek words for “Take” “Eat” and “Broken” are omitted in the following corrupted manuscripts:
p46, Aleph, A, and B.
The omission of these three vital words removes the heart out of this verse plus it attacks the sacrifice of Christ for His people.
"During the Last Supper, the Lord symbolically broke bread and told His disciples that this represented His body which was going to be broken for them the next day. Breaking bread is not just Christian fellowship but it celebrates the relationship that the true Christian has with the Lord Jesus Christ. That word “broken” was showing that the Lord Jesus was going to suffer much physical pain and suffering, and to remove that word was to remove the reality and severity of what was going to take place.He also made His disciples partakers in His suffering by means of giving them the broken bread. The Bible teaches that we are so intimate with Christ that we are members of His flesh and bones. (Eph 5:30 KJV) For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. When Christ gave them the bread it was telling them that in order for them to become saved it was necessary for Him to suffer and just as each of them tore a piece of the bread, His body would be torn in like manner. (Luke 24:46 KJV) And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:For the modern versions to omit the fact that Christ’s body was going to be broken for us is to omit the crucifixion. Of course, it follows that the Gnostics of the second century would not believe that the crucifixion of Christ purchased the salvation for all the Elect, so they and their modern counterparts had to exclude this from the text.This verse is normally read along with the rest of 1 Corinthians 11:23-34 on the day when the church celebrates Communion. We are remembering the death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ and His anticipated return on the last day. In the marriage ceremony the Bible teaches that the husband‘s body belongs to the wife and the wife’s body belongs to the husband. (1 Cor 7:4 KJV) The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife. They are given to each other wholly but the Lord Jesus Christ, in taking His bride, was required to have His body broken according to the Scriptures. So when the word “broken” is omitted, it omits a great spiritual lesson and lessens the sacrifice of Christ. When the words “Take, Eat” are left out, they remove the intimacy that the believer has with the Lord Jesus Christ. (1 Cor 10:17 KJV) For we being many are one bread, and one body: for we are all partakers of that one bread.So the next time one uses a modern version at Communion, you will see the emptiness of those words versus the reality of what took place. You can give your body to someone without suffering. You can give it to them in service or a husband or wife can give it to each other in pleasure but the word “broken” brings a special meaning to a special relationship between Christ and His church. If Christ’s body was not broken, then we are still in our sins." scionofzion.

My Question: Is this major doctrine??

Corrupted Manuscripts
This verse is corrupted in the following manuscripts:
Aleph 01 - Sinaiticus - Fourth centuryA 02 - Alexandrinus - Fifth century
B 03 - Vaticanus - Fourth century
C 04 - Ephraemi Rescriptus - Fifth century
D 06 - Paris: Claromontanus - Sixth century
33 (Miniscule) - Ninth Century
P 46 - circa 200 AD

Proverbs 30:5 (AV/KJB) Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
(KJV) And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
1 Corinthians 11:29
(NIV) For anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body of the Lord eats and drinks judgment on himself.
(NASV) For he who eats and drinks, eats and drinks judgment to himself if he does not judge the body rightly.
(ESV) For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment on himself.
(1901 ASV) For he that eateth and drinketh, eateth and drinketh judgment unto himself, if he discern not the body.
(HCSB) For whoever eats and drinks without recognizing the body, eats and drinks judgment on himself.
(RSV) For any one who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment upon himself.
(NAB-Roman Catholic) For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body, eats and drinks judgment on himself.
(NWT-Jehovah’s Witness) For he that eats and drinks eats and drinks judgment against himself if he does not discern the body.
(NKJV) Again confusion by the notes.

Corrupted Manuscripts
This verse is corrupted in the following manuscripts:
Aleph - Sinaiticus - Fourth Century
A - Alexandrinus - Fifth Century
B - Vaticanus - Fourth Century
C - Paris: Ephraemi Rescriptus - Fifth Century
P46 - Second Century

Affected Teachings
"In this verse the Gnostic hit squads removed two very important words, “unworthily” and “Lord’s.” This verse deals with the Lord’s Supper and teaches a very important principle. Those who are unworthy to take the Lord’s Supper are those who are unsaved. (Rev 3:4 KJV) Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy. We read in the letter to Sardis that those who have not defiled their garments were worthy. Those who are in Christ are made worthy because of the sacrifice of Christ. 1 Corinthians 11:29 gives a stern warning to those who are unsaved that they drink damnation to themselves simply because they think they are partaking of the Lord’s Supper and this somehow makes them worthy for Heaven. This could not be any farther from the truth. When a person becomes saved they are made worthy and are permitted to take the Lord’s Supper. Unbelievers should never partake in the Lord’s Supper and that is why churches must only give Communion to those who are saved. By removing the word “unworthily” they are opening the door for the belief that all may partake of the Lord’s Supper and that it could be considered some kind of ritual rather than a remembering of the Lord’s sacrifice and looking forward to His return. A great deception takes place when the unworthy are led to believe they are worthy.Then they removed the word “Lord’s” and this once again takes away the specific nature of this verse. The body which is in view is the Lord’s body and no one else’s. Without the word “Lord’s” any body can be in view. It could be the body of any belief system. It could be the body of believers. It could be the church body with unbelievers in it. The Corinthian Christians were guilty of making the Lord’s Supper a common feast instead of looking at the solemnity of it. If a person is a true believer, they will never suffer damnation of Hell since all their sins have been paid for. Unbelievers already have the wrath of God abiding on them. Any Christian who does not understand the deep spiritual and solemn nature of the Lord’s Supper is in danger of being judged by God. Yes, a believer can suffer the judging hand of God. Remember David when he sinned with Bathsheba? The consequence of his sin was the death of his child. This is why we are never to treat communion as something common. By removing “Lord’s” they once again attack the Lord Jesus Christ by removing a specific allusion to His body." scionofzion.

Proverbs 30:5 (AV/KJB) Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
(KJV) For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.What about the major doctrine of ‘damnation’?

The Holy Bible (AV/KJV) is THE MAJOR DOCTRINE of God our Father and His Son Jesus.

2 Timothy 3:16
Hebrews 6:18

This short study used the information from the following internet sites as well as from my own personal Holy Bible (AV/KJV).
http://www.scionofzion.com/translations.htm
http://www.biblegateway.com/
Also see my blog: http://www.1500sploughboy.blogspot.com/
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Fish, Salad, Beans - (This was what was for dinner)

Now on to some activity in the animal world.

Gen 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

Oh, and then it looks like in the latter days must have not liked what Adam called them. Or was it just a Dr. WHO change?
Isaiah 34:1-17 NKJV (A Dr. WHO book)

1 Come near, you nations, to hear; And heed, you people! Let the earth hear, and all that is in it, The world and all things that come forth from it. 2 For the indignation of the LORD is against all nations, And His fury against all their armies; He has utterly destroyed them, He has given them over to the slaughter. 3 Also their slain shall be thrown out; Their stench shall rise from their corpses, And the mountains shall be melted with their blood. 4 All the host of heaven shall be dissolved, And the heavens shall be rolled up like a scroll; All their host shall fall down As the leaf falls from the vine, And as fruit falling from a fig tree. 5 “ For My sword shall be bathed in heaven; Indeed it shall come down on Edom, And on the people of My curse, for judgment. 6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, It is made overflowing with fatness, With the blood of lambs and goats, With the fat of the kidneys of rams. For the LORD has a sacrifice in Bozrah, And a great slaughter in the land of Edom. 7 The wild oxen shall come down with them, And the young bulls with the mighty bulls; Their land shall be soaked with blood, And their dust saturated with fatness.” 8 For it is the day of the LORD’s vengeance, The year of recompense for the cause of Zion. 9 Its streams shall be turned into pitch, And its dust into brimstone; Its land ()shall become burning pitch. 10 It shall not be quenched night or day; Its smoke shall ascend forever. From generation to generation it shall lie waste; No one shall pass through it forever and ever. 11 But the pelican and the porcupine shall possess it, Also the owl and the raven shall dwell in it. And He shall stretch out over it The line of confusion and the stones of emptiness. 12 They shall call its nobles () to the kingdom, But none shall be there, and all its princes shall be nothing. 13 And thorns shall come up in its palaces, Nettles and brambles in its fortresses; It shall be a habitation of jackals, A courtyard for ostriches. 14 The wild beasts of the desert shall also meet with () the jackals, And the wild goat shall bleat to its companion; Also the night creature shall rest there, And find for herself a place of rest. 15 There the arrow snake shall make her nest and lay eggs And hatch, and gather them under her shadow; There also shall the hawks be gathered, Every one with her mate. 16 “ Search from the book of the LORD, and read: Not one of these shall fail; Not one shall lack her mate. For My mouth has commanded it, and His Spirit has gathered them. 17 He has cast the lot for them, And His hand has divided it among them with a measuring line. They shall possess it forever; From generation to generation they shall dwell in it.”
- Is the above confusing? Was it willfully so? Is it a small or large lie?

The following is what the True Word of God says:
Isaiah 34:1-17 KJV
Come near, ye nations, to hear; and hearken, ye people: let the earth hear, and all that is therein; the world, and all things that come forth of it.
(2) For the indignation of the LORD is upon all nations, and his fury upon all their armies: he hath utterly destroyed them, he hath delivered them to the slaughter.
(3) Their slain also shall be cast out, and their stink shall come up out of their carcases, and the mountains shall be melted with their blood.
(4) And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree.
(5) For my sword shall be bathed in heaven: behold, it shall come down upon Idumea, and upon the people of my curse, to judgment.
(6) The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.
(7) And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness.
(8) For it is the day of the LORD'S vengeance, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion.
(9) And the streams thereof shall be turned into pitch, and the dust thereof into brimstone, and the land thereof shall become burning pitch.
(10) It shall not be quenched night nor day; the smoke thereof shall go up for ever: from generation to generation it shall lie waste; none shall pass through it for ever and ever.
(11) But the cormorant and the bittern shall possess it; the owl also and the raven shall dwell in it: and he shall stretch out upon it the line of confusion, and the stones of emptiness.
(12) They shall call the nobles thereof to the kingdom, but none shall be there, and all her princes shall be nothing.
(13) And thorns shall come up in her palaces, nettles and brambles in the fortresses thereof: and it shall be an habitation of dragons, and a court for owls.
(14) The wild beasts of the desert shall also meet with the wild beasts of the island, and the satyr shall cry to his fellow; the screech owl also shall rest there, and find for herself a place of rest.
(15) There shall the great owl make her nest, and lay, and hatch, and gather under her shadow: there shall the vultures also be gathered, every one with her mate.
(16) Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth it hath commanded, and his spirit it hath gathered them.
(17) And he hath cast the lot for them, and his hand hath divided it unto them by line: they shall possess it for ever, from generation to generation shall they dwell therein.

Note the above mentioned 'Dr. Westcott and Hort Only' book.